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        Part XXXV- 
Re-examination of the Perceptual Process (based upon some questions
         raised on the previous material) – Part 4  
       6. Objection: According advaita there
         is a tAdAtmya sambandha [relationship of identity] between
         object and the attributes. Hence advaita does not say
         that one can only perceive the attributes and not the
         object. VP says clearly that the object is perceived;
         it never says that only the attributes are perceived
         and the object is real within vyavahAra.  
   
  Response: tAdAtmya sambandha has to be understood
  correctly. The attributive locus is an object that is perceived.
  For example, the material gold remains out there when I perceive
  the object ring. ‘Ring’ is only notional – a
  pada [word] with no padArtha [thing corresponding to the meaning
  of the word] of its own, even at vyavahAra level. The attributes
  of the ring that are perceived by the senses are ‘as
  though’ now locussed onto the vRRitti to form the object
  ring that is perceived. It could be semantics here. The tAdAtmya
  sambandha between the locus and its attributes remains during
  the perceptual process since the notional ring outside is now
  a notional ring inside. The only difference is that the ring
  outside has its attributes while the ring inside the mind has
  to be based on the attributive knowledge gathered by the senses.
  Defects in the senses or in the associated signal processing
  can impact on the ring object seen in the mind, even though
  the outside ring is perfect. Neither the ring outside nor the
  ring inside has matter 
of its own, since objects are notional. The ‘ring matter’ outside
is gold whereas the ‘ring matter’ inside is existence
itself as part of the vRRitti, i.e. subtle matter. tAdAtmya sambandha
remains for both ring outside and ring inside since the attributes
perceived and the object seen have an avinAbhAva sambandha [necessary
connection] or a non-separability relationship of the object
outside and object inside. This is accomplished without any matter
or substance transfer because the objects are notional. This
is not pAramArthika; it is vyAvahArika only. 
   
7. Objection: This is an important objection
that was not clearly addressed before. If we do not perceive
the substance, how do we ever know that there is such
a thing as substance? In fact, how do we ever know that there
are two things – substance and attributes – if all
objective knowledge is attributive?  
   
  Response: Here, we need to differentiate between
  knowledge and experience in order to understand clearly. Knowledge
  involves mental processes, which are subtle. This includes
  perception. If there is a ring on the table, I perceive the
  ring through the process described above. Now when I pick up
  the ring and put it on my finger, the transaction that is involved
  is not just a perceptual transaction. For others who are witnessing
  it, it may be but not for the one who is transacting. There
  is an experience of wearing the ring that goes with the transaction.
  sambandha is now established between what is perceived and
  what is transacted. If the object cannot be transacted but
  only perceived, it will remain only as a perceived object.
  VP defines the pramANa clearly as ‘anadhigata, abAdhita,
  arthavishAyaka jnAnatvam’ – that which is not known
  before, that which is not contradicted and that which has a
  meaning in the sense that it has transactional reality.  
       This transactional reality is established by the transaction.
         Bhagavan Ramanuja describes it as ‘utility’ or ‘usage’. ‘Transactability’ establishes
         the reality of what is perceived and what is transacted.
         Hence, the error or bhrama in advaita vedAnta is clearly
         related to negatability by contradictory experience.
         For example, if I see a snake and later discover that
         it is a rope via a transaction (say by beating it with
         a stick), what was perceived before is now recognized
         as an error. If there is no contradictory transaction
         involved (i.e. a transaction that contradicts the perception
         of a snake), then the perception of what is actually
         a rope remains as a snake in the mind of the perceiver.  
       Whoever comes to our house feels like touching the
         flowers displayed on our coffee-table to find out if
         they are real or if they are those that are made in
         Japan. By feeling the texture, they are able to discriminate
         real vs. Japanese flowers. From the perceptual process
         alone. i.e. just by looking at the flowers, the attributes
         are not sufficiently discriminative to be able to differentiate.
         If one could make the texture identical as well, then
         one would need to do further tests in order to differentiate
         them. This example further proves that attributive knowledge
         is not substantial knowledge. Advaita Vedanta is self-consistent,
         logical in its analysis and also is in tune with the
         current state of understanding of science.  
     
  As a child gains knowledge of the world, appropriate transactions
  establish the validity of their perceptions. Both are within
  vyavahAra or transactional reality. We are not concerned with
  paramArtha here although, in the perceptuality requirement,
  VP does address the pAramArthika aspect too. There is no other
  vyApti [general example] required to establish the concomitant
  relation between the vRRitti in the mind and the object out
  there, since perception is immediate and direct. We are also
  not violating any epistemological issues either. To suppose
  that the subtle mind perceived a gross substantive along with
  the subtle attributes would indeed be both unscientific and
  illogical. Also, we would not want our minds clogged by all
  the substantives that we perceive!  
     
  8. Objection: If there are two things A and
  B, and if A is perceived and not B, two things are sure:  
  1. either B is known to exist a priori but is not perceived
  in this specific instance. Or  
  2. B is totally unknown a priori and is not perceived in this
  specific instance either.  
  So, which of the above is true when perception of substance
  is denied? If it is former, then what is the source of our
  knowledge about ‘substance’? If memory is not a
  pramANa, such a priori knowledge of the substance cannot be
  assumed in the current denial of perception of the substance.  
     
    Response: Firstly, the above statements
    are confusing. The objector starts with a statement: ‘if
    there are two things A and B…’ In that very
    statement, there is an inherent assumption of the conditional
    existence of two things, A and B, and also the existence
    of a difference between A and B (based, obviously, on the
    differences in the attributive knowledge of A and B). The
    subsequent discussion involving vikalpa-s (choices) only
    denies what has already been assumed. ( I am just having
    some fun with dialectics, since the objector enjoys using
    dialectics!)  
       Let us examine the objection more seriously:  
       1. If B is known to exist a priori but is not perceived
         now in this specific instance, this only implies that
         object B was perceived through the vRRitti and is now
         stored in memory. Whatever objects B, C, D etc were
         perceived before are all stored in memory. Any substantive
         knowledge of B is established only through transaction
         with B. If perception of B is brahma, like the snake
         perception, but was not negated as bhrama by a contradictory
         transaction, then it will remain as an erroneous perception
         in the memory. There is no problem in that either, since
         the perceptual process is only attributive.  
       2. ‘Or B is totally unknown a priori and is not
         perceived in this specific instance either.’ This
         statement denies the first conditional statement that
         there are A and B. ‘B is’ means that B exists,
         and existence of B cannot be established without the
         knowledge of its existence. That would mean that its
         existence is known but not perceived now (it can be
         known by other pramANa-s). Since there is no object
         now with its attributes that the mind can perceive through
         the senses, one has no cognition of B now, even if it
         is known to exist in the memory because of the assumption
         made.  
     
  The objector asks: ‘So which case of the above is true,
  when perception of substance is denied?’ The current
  absence of the existence of object B is true since it is not
  perceived now, even though existence of B and its attributive
  knowledge is there in the memory. If I do not see a cow in
  my office right now, although I know that cows exist in the
  world along with their characteristic attributes, then ‘non-existence
  of cow now in my office’ is true. Attributes do need
  a locus. The vRRitti that is formed is the locus for the attributes
  when an object is perceived and this vRRitti is subsequently
  stored in the memory. I do not see a cow now because the attributes
  of the cow that are locussed in the cow are not currently perceived
  through senses in any object that I can see in my office. In
  this case there is no source for the substance or its attributes.
  Cow is only a vRRitti stored in the memory. 
       The objector then says: ‘if memory is not a pramANa,
         such a priori knowledge of the substance cannot be assumed
         in the current denial of perception of the substance’.
         This statement of the objector is somewhat confusing.
         Suppose that I recall that I saw a snake yesterday based
         on the attributive knowledge that the senses gathered,
         and now I say that I do not see a snake here in my office.
         The substantial snake does not have to be there in order
         for me to deny its existence now. It is not there now
         because I do not see any attributes of the snake in
         my office. I can now recall the snake that I saw yesterday
         sitting in my office, since the attributes that I gathered
         at that time are available as a vRRitti in my memory
         . There is no confusion in understanding the perception
         described above. Therefore, this objection has no relevance.  
       Memory as a pramANa is accounted for by the VP as ‘abhAdita
         arthavishayaka jnAnatvam ‘ [not contradicted and
         meaningful] where the criterion of ‘anadhigata’ [not
         previously known] is removed, since one knows based
         on past perception. Non-negatability and transactability
         remain as means of knowledge. Recall the example of
         trying to meet Mr. GAgAbUbu in the station for the first
         time, based on the attributive knowledge that I have
         gathered in the past. Since I now know what he looks
         like based on the hear-say knowledge (Apta vAkya), I
         can look for Mr. GAgAbUbu and find him there. I will
         find that the attributive GAgAbUbu in my mind matches
         with the attributes of the Mr. GAgAbUbu out there in
         the station. If I do not find any one that matches the
         description of GAgAbUbu in the station, all it means
         is that the attributes of all the people that I see
         in the station do not match with the attributes of GAgAbUbu
         that I have stored as a vRRitti in my mind When I shake
         hands with the real Mr. GAgAbUbu, he becomes a transactable
         entity – vyAvahArika satyam. If the knowledge
         remains attributive only, he may remain as prAtibhAsika
         like our good old snake.  
       Therefore, none of the objections raised above contradicts
         the perceptual process described.  
     
  9. Objection: If the very notion called `substance'
  is forever unknown a priori, how can one say that the substance
  of all things is Brahman? Brahman is never perceived to be
  the substance of anything in any act of perception. 
       Response: It is through transactions
         that one knows that the ring that I see is real at the
         transactional level. Also, the snake that I saw is realized
         not to have been real when my subsequent transaction
         proves that it is rope. Brahman is known as the substantive,
         not by any perceptual process but by Shruti statements
         such as ‘sadeva saumyedamagra AsIt...’ (Ch.
         U. 6.ii.1 'In the beginning, dear boy, this was Being
         alone, one only, without a second...')  and ‘Atmaivedam
         agra AsIt...’ (Br. U. 1.iv.1 'The supreme Self
         alone was...) and is further confirmed by ‘neha
         nAnAsti kiMchana’ (Br. U. 4.iv.19 'there is no
         diversity here') and ‘sarvaM khalvidaM
         brahma’ (CH. U.
         3. xiv.1 'all this is verily brahman'), etc.  
       Proceed to the next
        essay. 
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